Comments on: Feds uphold state decision: toll road near Trestles appears dead

By: JonB

JonB — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 21:20:45 +0000

The toll road is a developers dream… More houses! Don’t we have enough?? Stop building and let competition for existing homes drive prices and the ability to live here. Have you ever actually used the toll road?? Going South on I-5 a logical person would not pay to drive up to the hills, pay again to turn south and then merge back into San Diego traffic. Duh! Did you ever consider that this Orange County bottle neck will just migrate to San Diego County???? FYI I-15 is in place for inland folks. BTW who gets slowed down in the morning due to the San Clemente Bottleneck. Nobody really. The traffic really only exists on Friday night South and Sunday night North. If we keep building freeways to keep up with traffic, more people will use them and the congestion will be back. Its a selffullfilling profecy. Why not figure out a way too get cars off the road.. Gee duh nobody ever talks about that….

By: Ryan74's Theory

Ryan74's Theory — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:17:27 +0000

Under Ryan’s theory, the way to reduce traffic nearly completely would be to tear up all the streets, highways and freeways! What a great idea! Let’s tear up all of our existing roads!

No roads anywhere mean no traffic! What a utopia this would be!

By: Sean

Sean — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 01:37:20 +0000

P.S. Sorry I meant the First comment the one before mine is on the right track…. We need a Less traffic not more!!!!!

By: Nina

Nina — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 02:57:05 +0000

The Trestles nude beach wouldn’t even be affected since the toll road would end about a mile before the beach. However, the traffic impact in the Coto de Caza/Oso Pkwy area and the beach area is what everyone was opposing. I am glad to hear there will be no construction and increased traffic! And at the same time the open space conservancy will be preserved!!

By: Mark Calkins

Mark Calkins — Thu, 01 Jan 2009 20:27:28 +0000

Doheny Long Board Surfing Association and the Coalition of Surfing Clubs wants to thank all those that have fought so hard to save Trestles. This is a wonderful step in the right direction to save a pristine coastal area that many enjoy and hopefully will be able to share with their children’s children. Thank you Thank you Thank you

By: Ben Thompson

Ben Thompson — Fri, 26 Dec 2008 14:58:25 +0000

I found more here if anyone's interested

By: Joe from the OC

Joe from the OC — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:23:54 +0000

Wes, it is not stupid, it is the truth. I worked the streets of South Central for four years and there are a lot of similarities between that trail and Figeurora St. And thanks for the insult, Merry Christmas!

By: Ryan74

Ryan74 — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 04:53:02 +0000

You tollroad advocates are so quick to judge us who are against the tollroad. We are not a bunch of hippies who smoke bowls all day and wake up to go surf. We are people who work, have families, and like to get out once in awhile to enjoy the last of God’s green earth that we have left here in SOuth OC. I don’t understand why you are all for paving over our last open space and state park.. The reality is that if our politicians and planners put there head together and think of a good solution to curb OC traffic problem, it probably would include new alternative transportation solutions like light rail or other mass transit solutions. In order to reduce traffic, you got to make it convenient to get people out of there cars. Less cars equal less traffic. More roads equal more traffic. I don’t know why you can’t get that into your head. Less cars equal less traffic. More roads equal more traffic. Less cars equal less traffic. More roads equal more traffic. Less cars equal less traffic. More roads equal more traffic. Less cars equal less traffic. More roads equal more traffic.

By: Tracy

Tracy — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 00:12:53 +0000

No OCgirlie, we’ve already won, so there! And all your FACTs prove that you’ve probably never been to San Mateo much less San Onofre or Trestles and simply can’t grasp the FACT that if one single toll road was allowed to destroy, diminish, or in any other way devalue a state park, precedent would’ve been set. But let me just repeat myself while you search for more TCA propaganda to cut and paste: WE WON!

By: OC Girlie

OC Girlie — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 00:07:56 +0000

Tracy…in case you are interested in the facts….
MYTH – TCA is running a six-lane road through San Onofre State Beach and ruining the campsites that are enjoyed by so many.

FACT – The alignment crosses a little-used inland subunit of San Onofre State Beach Park east of Interstate 5 almost a mile from the beach. The most popular campgrounds are west of Interstate 5, far from the 241. Plans call for keeping all sites open during and after construction, building pedestrian undercrossings to other park areas and adding a protective barrier to reduce traffic sounds. In addition, TCA will contribute $100 million to improve California’s state parks system.

FACT – The route for Foothill-South does not remove or damage any campsites within the San Onofre State Park. A trail from San Mateo Campground to the beach will remain open during and after construction. View simulations prepared for the project illustrate that any impacts to the viewshed are minimal.

MYTH – This campground will have a toll road within 250 of it with 60-foot sound walls climbing up canyon walls.

FACT – Sound walls near the campground will be a maximum of 16 feet tall. The campground is 385 feet from the toll road. As a result, it will have far less noise than the Bluffs Campground, which is 250 feet from Interstate 5 with no sound walls. A trail from San Mateo Campground and Trestles parking area to the beach will remain open during and after construction. Currently, Trestles visitors walk under Interstate 5 and the train trestles to reach the beach.