Orange County Register

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• Windfall says:

  December 31, 2008 at 3:39 pm

  Does the Wyland propaganda truck inform children that the total amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is less than half of one hundreth of one percent?

  And that only a fraction of that is man-made?
• badwolf says:

  December 31, 2008 at 4:16 pm

  Wyland is to art as Nickelback is to music.
• Will says:

  December 31, 2008 at 7:26 pm

  For the first time in recent history all of the land surface of Canada is covered with snow, record setting snow falls in the northern United States too. Better keep that big rig to the south where you won’t get laughed out of town, stuck in a snow drift or both. Taking care of the planet is one thing, promulgation of algores hokey new religion is quite another.
• never ending fight for freedom says:

  January 1, 2009 at 8:41 am

  gmafb
• earthwatcher246 says:

  January 1, 2009 at 8:59 am

  It seems that the point of this exhibit is not about climate change, but about how more people in California will adjust to living with less water. I think it sounds fascinating.
• Alison says:

  January 1, 2009 at 9:03 am

  I hope it comes to my niece’s school. They never get anything special like this. And she’s into the environment, big time.
• Steve says:

  January 1, 2009 at 9:08 am

  Did the writer of this article actually take the tour? I doubt it. There isn’t a climate change message as much as a water management message. Thru the various displays it shows children how the pollution they make can end up in the oceans, etc. I have taken the tour and believe it is very instructive.
• Ralf says:

  January 1, 2009 at 11:42 am

  # Windfall Says:
  And that only a fraction of that is man-made?

  Yeah, only a fraction - over 30% and on track towards 50% if CO2 emissions are not reduced.
  The fact that a very small CO2 concentration has a powerful greenhouse effect is the very core of the issue. Without the greenhouse effect the earth would be much colder - yet CO2 was only 200-something ppm, i.e. 0.02%, in pre-industrial times. We managed to increase it to well over 300 ppm already and are on track to 400 and beyond. Climatologists have unequivocal data now that this has already increased the intensity of hurricanes - as predicted over 20 years ago.
• Windfall says:

  January 1, 2009 at 12:59 pm

  No theory is ever “proven” to be correct. Theories can only be “proven” to be incorrect. Theories are not facts. They are attempts to explain facts. The better the theory is able to predict future data, the better the theory; however, even the most useful theory remains, always, subject to a deeper or more precise understanding of nature. Science, by its very definition, is never “settled”.

  The man-made carbon dioxide emission theory of global warming is based on the idea of carbon dioxide causing the atmosphere to trap heat in the upper atmosphere and thus causing a rise in surface temperatures. This is why it is called the greenhouse effect, i.e., the atmosphere works like a greenhouse.

  If this theory is correct, if an increase in the carbon dioxide content of the atmosphere is in fact causing a concomitant increase in surface temperatures, this should be preceded by a more rapid increase in the temperature of the troposphere. These measurements have been taken. The reason that you haven’t heard much about this is because they don’t fit the narrative that the drive-by media and other special interests have taken to heart. Even worse, they essentially disprove the entire premise of the man-made carbon dioxide emission theory of global warming.

  Over the period from 1970 though 1998, during which surface temperatures on average did increase, temperature readings in the troposphere increased at a much slower rate in direct contraction to the man-made carbon dioxide emission theory of global warming.

  As to the natural greenhouse effect, which does in fact warm the Earth, over 99.9 percent of it is due to water vapor. Based on the data, carbon dioxide has very little, if anything at all, to do with it. If carbon dioxide were a significant factor, surface temperatures would have continued to increase subsequent to1998 and troposphere temperatures would have increased faster than surface temperatures.

  Since neither of these events occurred, the man-made carbon emissions theory of global warming is useless in terms of either explaining or predicting anything. At this point, it is no longer a science. It is, indeed, a religion in the sense that, in order to be taken seriously, it requires one to not only have faith in events unseen but to suspend belief in observable facts as well.
• never ending fight for freedom says:

  January 1, 2009 at 6:33 pm

  Yo Ralf, tin foil hat clamp digging into your cranium a little buddy?
  Remember not to torque the clamp rings to over 110 ft. lb.
• Alie says:

  January 1, 2009 at 10:51 pm

  It’s a great exhibit. I’ve seen it too.
• Jim says:

  January 3, 2009 at 2:01 pm

  The climate has changed for billions of years and will continue to do so. Who the h*&^ is algore to decide what the “right” temperature is? Go read some history; grapes at one time grew wild above the arctic circle, and at another time Minnesota was covered in two miles of ice.

  Here are just a few people who disagree that man kind is causing climate change:

  Geologist Dr. Arun D. Ahluwalia at Punjab University and a board member of the UN-supported International Year of the Planet.
  Dr. Takeda Kunihiko, vice-chancellor of the Institute of Science and Technology Research at Chubu University in Japan.
  Atmospheric Scientist Dr. Joanne Simpson, the first woman in the world to receive a PhD in meteorology and formerly of NASA who has authored more than 190 studies and has been called “among the most preeminent scientists of the last 100 years.”
  UN IPCC Japanese Scientist Dr. Kiminori Itoh, an award-winning PhD environmental physical chemist.
  Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, a researcher at the Institute of Geophysics of the National Autonomous University of Mexico
  U.S Government Atmospheric Scientist Stanley B. Goldenberg of the Hurricane Research Division of NOAA.
  Geoffrey G. Duffy, a professor in the Department of Chemical and Materials Engineering of the University of Auckland, NZ.
  Climate statistician Dr. William M. Briggs, who specializes in the statistics of forecast evaluation, serves on the American Meteorological Society’s Probability and Statistics Committee and is an Associate Editor of Monthly Weather Review.
  Geologist Dr. David Gee the chairman of the science committee of the 2008 International Geological Congress who has authored 130 plus peer reviewed papers, and is currently at Uppsala University in Sweden.
  Meteorologist Hajo Smit of Holland, who reversed his belief in man-made warming to become a skeptic, is a former member of the Dutch UN IPCC committee.
  Atmospheric physicist James A. Peden, formerly of the Space Research and Coordination Center in Pittsburgh.
  Environmental Scientist Professor Delgado Domingos of Portugal, the founder of the Numerical Weather Forecast group, has more than 150 published articles.
  Award-winning Paleontologist Dr. Eduardo Tonni, of the Committee for Scientific Research in Buenos Aires and head of the Paleontology Department at the University of La Plata. # #
• creech says:

  January 5, 2009 at 11:15 am

  I think the point Al Gore made is that humans have contributed to making the temperature warmer than what would have occurred by natural processes. And I would love to read some of the research findings from Jim’s list. I doubt most of their findings would be quite so simple.

  But the point of the clean water truck is not about climate change. It incorporates a few methods to reduce the climate impact of the vehicle, regardless of the final verdict of who’s causing climate change.

  The center teaches students about ways they can minimize their impact on water supplies, whether by understanding cooperative management of a finite supply of water (yes in the southwest and mexico). Or understanding how ALL areas - including ones deluged with water - suffer from non-point pollution and destruction of aquatic habitat.
• Normando says:

  January 15, 2009 at 7:48 pm

  Global Warming has become a true religion because the facts don’t bear this concept out. Like true religions of the world, there is a huge group of people in the world who have this strong need to have it be so. They are clinging to their political “faith” and totally unwilling to face the facts of the last decade, which all point to the cooling of our globe.
  And, we originally were told by Gore that the number of UN scientists who signed off on the Global Warming idea were the overwhelming majority of UN associated scientists. Now, the facts are out and we know that a mere 52 UN scientists signed off on it. At a recent important conference in Eastern Europe, over 600 scientists renounced the Global Warming theory and stated that Man has not caused changes in the weather, only natural processes can do that. Liberals who attend “Global Warming Church” will continue to proslytize college students and K-12 school kids, which can be contstrued as mergin Church and State. Let’s all pay attention to the facts and drop the ‘faith-based’ politics so we don’t unnecessarily bring ourselves down with carbon credits and unwanted taxes.